Listen in on my interview with Joey Mascio, a Life Coach who coaches teenagers. He didn’t start as a coach though. He had dreams of becoming a screenwriter for Hollywood and went on to becoming a teacher.
Joey’s story will help you see the importance of believing that as you honor what you feel guided to do, you can 100% make your own business happen.
This is entrepreneurs of Christ, a podcast dedicated to the men of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, those of you who want to build a business, those of you who want to make more with your lives and be able to create more time with your life, create more freedom, create more of everything that you’ve wanted, be a better husband, father, leader, these are the things that we want to be able to touch on in this podcast. And in doing so, you’ll hear a little bit from me, you also hear from other people. And one of these people that I have interviewed here, his name is Joey Mascio. And he is actually a coach that specializes in helping teenagers. And you go, Whoa, he also helps parents as well. But it’s really about helping teenagers understand what it takes to accomplish their goals. And it’s just an awesome guy, awesome character. He’s so fun. And some of the things that you know, you will gain from this episode is really need to start reflecting on that inner guidance. Joey’s story is awesome in the sense that there are moments that you can see, and that you’ll hear in his story that you’ll find where he was inspired. And sometimes you might not feel like you’re inspired. Sometimes you might feel like, I don’t know, this is I don’t know what this message is, I don’t know if I should follow this prompting, I don’t know if it is an even is a prompting. But I think as you listen, you’ll be able to kind of see for yourself and, and learn from his experience, how you can trust your own guidance. And to be able to follow that follow that in creating what you really want. I think that’s an important piece that is something that I find again, and again comes up in different interviews. So without further ado, let’s go to my interview with Joey Mascio. Alright, everybody, this is Tyson Bradley. And I am here with Joey Mascio, who is an amazing life coach, he coaches, teens and students and parents, and has a company called firmly founded coaching. And we’re gonna dive into his story here. I’ve sent him some questions, we’re gonna dialogue back and forth. But really the the aim of what we want to be able to go for here is, you know, helping all of you out there. Understand that there is a success. On the other side of the kind of honoring what’s in your heart to pursue those business ideas, those things that you’ve always wanted to do. So I’ve got Joey here. And really the first question that I have for you, Joey is, when did you first know you wanted to get into coaching?
Joey Mascio 03:11
Yeah. Well, first off, thanks for having me on the show. Thanks so much. And well, I guess those are two different questions. When did I first want to be an entrepreneur or when I first want to get into coaching? What question are you asking?
Tyson Bradley 03:25
Maybe? Well, I’d be curious as to like the entrepreneurs like did you? Oh, did you want to start a business early on earlier before getting into your current business?
Joey Mascio 03:34
Yes. So I was, let’s see, like I pursued a Hollywood, I always knew that I would be unconventional in the way I made money somehow, you know, and then I was I was trying to be a writer and actor, performer and all that other stuff. And then I met my wife. I was like, Okay, well, let me actually go get a real job, which might have been a mistake. But no, it actually was great. Everything I did, it made me who I am today. And so I went, got my my Master’s in education became a teacher, my second passion, love, love, love it did for seven years. But in the middle of all that teaching. A book came across my desk, per se. It’s a book called The five day weekend. And just the title on that. What’s that? That sounds nice. Oh, you know, like, I would love to have a five day weekend right now I have a one day weekend, you know, with you know, I’m teaching and all that and then working on Saturdays lesson prepping and grading. And I was like, that sounds super nice. So I read that book, which was a great like, hey, just so you know, a different lifestyle is possible. And that book really did a lot in shifting my mind to what I believed what I was always told was the only way to make money, go become an employee of somewhere, get a really good job, you know, and then just get a paycheck for 30 years and then retire. Boom, that means success. But this book just flipped it all on its head. That was really the first time I thought I can create something will just pay me directly for it. Well, that’s interesting. And I many me my wife both had many, I would say a few failed attempts at entrepreneurship. Where first it was like, all right, my wife did this diaper caddy, Amazon drop shipping business. It was really successful. And we like double down on our orders from China. And then Amazon opened to China in like that summer. And we ended up with a product 800 diaper caddies in our attic that we just kind of just had, and we would they sell for 27 bucks apiece at one point. And then we were selling my garage sales for 250 $2.50 apiece, just to get rid of them, you know? So we did that. And there were some other things, okay, well, then I’ll do some, like, some money story, like, like, I was looking at what’s the big way for me to become an entrepreneur and get some passive income, right. And I did all the wrong things first, which is a very important step, right to do. I was in anybody’s journey. I did that for like, a couple months, where you bought somebody, you know what, in learning educational toys, you know, and when to sell him. And it was like, my heart wasn’t in any of it. And my wife said, the same thing was like, my heart is not in it. Then I heard about this thing called life coaching. And I’m like, oh, my goodness, like that sounds like me, like up and down. And something that I’m already doing. At school, I volunteered to be the teacher in the discipline office, where I was just coaching the teens that came in there. And I’m like, way, way way people make money doing this. explain more, you know, like, read that was when I kind of really started to feel like put my passion with passive income capability and entrepreneurship, all like started coming together for me. And that was probably that was 2018. Right, So okay, going back to when you were pursuing creative writing. And you had this idea is like, I need to get a real job. I you know, it’s so fascinating, because I think that just society, and the path that we are taught to follow is go to school, I mean, go on a mission, then go to school, get a degree, go get a job, get the mortgage, get the family, all those things. And for you, was there any kind of tension between doing what you thought you wanted to do and doing? What he thought I need to, like, get a real job? Like it? Was there any kind of moments just like or you’re just was it just some kind of passive default? experience? Where, okay, I’ve got this wife now and and how am I going to provide for her? So let’s just, There was definitely tension. Because
Tyson Bradley 07:59
Joey Mascio 08:00
I mean, that was when the my wife met, it was probably I mean, I would say, was that like, eight years after my mission, nine years after my mission, when we met and got married, and all that. So I’d already been doing a bunch of odd jobs here and there, right. And I tried to make in various things stand up comedy, I was a waiter for a long time, which was super fun, and great, you know, worked in performances and education and various capacity in various capacities. And then, when we got married, we actually had a deal with my wife like a deal. That was okay. Two years of me pursuing being a writer in Hollywood, right, let’s let me pursue it for two years now. And my wife was a food scientist. And she was like, Yeah, like, I can totally provide for us as you’re doing this, he has less of an income, you know, definitely less of a stable income. So all right, let’s do it for two years, right? We got married in November 2013. So the idea was November 2015. If I’m not if I haven’t made it, quote, unquote, making money, then abandon it. Well, that probably about five months later, me and her are studying scriptures together, she’s falling asleep and kind of reading them you know, aloud to her is we’re gonna like, just get ready for bed. She’s falling asleep. As I’m reading scriptures out loud. I stop and I get this big impression. Go back to school. And I was like, honey, I think I need to go back to school, and that Welker right up, right. And we had a conversation right about 30 minutes about going back to school. And then I did got my master’s in education became a teacher, and everything there but there was for that four months, right, four or five months of me trying to pursue it there was there was this like, dude, like, how are you going to do that? Like, you know, and Hollywood especially was like, past our open. Oh, no, that’s, that’s closed. Oh, here’s another path up. Nope, not as closed. Right? Amazon wants to make your show into a TV show. Nope. No, they’re not, you know, and it was just like, all this these things that happened and that didn’t happen. So there was this tension. I was like, man, like how can I still do what I love But also make money. So there was a sense for me where I was, I was almost settling. I love to being a teacher, don’t get me wrong. I loved all the students that I’ve worked with over the years. Loved it loved it. But for me, it was like that thing. People said, Oh, well, those who can’t do teach, there you go, right. And, in a way, I was always settling. I was never fully satisfied with it, though. I was always one who was like, I’m gonna make the best in whatever situation that I’m in. But I was definitely, there was a sense. After I became a teacher, I was working for someone else. And I was working for my money. And that was something never sat right with me.
Tyson Bradley 10:38
So I mean, what’s interesting is for one, you mentioned that teaching was kind of like a second passion. And that I think it’s fascinating that, you know, the the idea to go to school, it was guided, like, it wasn’t something that was like, oh, like, I can’t make it here. I mean, you probably could have just kept going, kept trying, and some people do. But there was this moment where you read a scripture, and now all of a sudden, I think I should go this new course. But the other part too, is now you’re in the teaching. And now it’s, there’s the tension, or there’s just the dissatisfaction, the fulfillment, like, Is there any kind of what would you? How would you describe that experience of like, being a teacher and knowing there’s something more?
Joey Mascio 11:24
Yeah, it’s interesting, because I feel like the whole thing was guided. Okay, every step of it was guided, and I needed to take the path I took to be where I’m at now, me, my wife had this conversation frequently, we’re like, oh, my goodness, I’m using skills that I learned from my creative writing degree that I learned in Hollywood and storytelling, I learned as a teacher, I learned in this other job, like, all the skills are, are coming to fruition, and to what I am now like, it’s like, my company is like a tapestry of everything that I have done. And so with that being said, knowing it was guided is still being like, Okay, I’m not there. I’m not at this destination, where I can just settle and do the same thing. And that thing always kills me. Oh, so I’m just gonna do this now, forever, you know, like, for the next 30 years, as a teacher, and I’m just someone who is probably a lot of IQ, once I figured out how to do something. I’m like, okay, what’s next? Like, I want to do something else, you know, and I, my first couple years, as a first year as a teacher was rough, super rough, like, Well, how do I get all these kids? I pay attention, you know, I have a middle school now. And then I kind of got that down. That became super easy. And then I was okay, well, let me start this program, this kind of pseudo coaching program at my school sweet, I can do this. This is great. How do I figure this out? Oh, okay, cool. I got that down. Right. And then it was like, what, what’s next? And for me, it was always out. What’s next thing, and what I’m doing right now, I’m very much like, firmly founded is where I’m going to be for the rest of my days, but infernally founded, I can create whatever I want, right? I can do whatever I want. So I’m always asking, what’s next? What’s next. And I had that freedom to be able to do it, where we’re working for somebody else, there are limitations,
Tyson Bradley 13:10
Right, So you know, if we go on your timeline, we’re going through your, you know, you get certified or whatever, as a life coach, you pursue that path. I feel like as a coach, or really, in any business, there’s just the common problems that you run into. And among those being, okay, how do I get clients? How do I get my first customers? How do I, you know, manage my time? How do I how do we create time for this? Because were you teaching as well as trying to build up your business?
Joey Mascio 13:43
Oh, yeah, I was teaching, I was getting certified. I was coaching, I already started coaching before I started getting certified. So I and I was a dad, I was a young men’s president, husband.
Tyson Bradley 13:56
And never, never mind that, you know, the church calling and all the other responsibilities, right? So So what would you say was maybe your biggest challenge in the midst of the building of the business? And what did what kind of what did that look like?
Joey Mascio 14:10
Balance and Discouragement. Right? You want to run faster than you can walk? Right? Right then and I had to recognize this is a time where the chapter where my time is limited, I can do as much as I would like to in my business area, and I’m just gonna have to be okay with that. Because I want to maintain balance. I woke up at 4am every day so I can get in two hours of work on my business every day, creating things, you know, writing, whatever, figuring out the business. You know, I didn’t know what I didn’t know. Yeah, at that point. And then there there came a time where it was, well, I certified in May, March or March 2019. I’d already been coaching for about a year. And after I got my certification, I’m like, Alright, I’m gonna go full in and then the pandemic happened. So The pandemic was kind of a blessing because I saved some time and not having to travel to work. I was still teaching online, doing all this stuff, I some meetings to attend, but I was okay, well, now now I don’t have to drive anywhere, I can literally click off, and then start working on my business right away. So that gave me some additional hours, especially at the beginning of the pandemic, they were telling teachers, at least my district don’t do anything, right. Like we don’t know, like, just post one thing a week, we’ll be coming back in about a month, you know, so don’t do anything, don’t change people’s grades, yada, yada. So that gave me a bunch of time. But even before that, I had already been working my business for a while. And then as the pandemic pandemic settled in, and my business started growing, I was waking up at 5am. Doing, I was working on my business in the morning, then I was doing all the things online and just I was in Southern California at the time. So we were still in distance learning for all of the last school year 2020, to 2021. But doing all this stuff, having meeting with students and grading and lesson planning, and then the second I would, I would end my workday at 330, I would jump on to an afternoon of coaching three or four clients. And that was pretty much every day. So then I would work in my business. So it was work on the business in the morning, work in the business or working for somebody else during the day and then work in the business in the afternoon. And so I had to clock out, I had to have times of clock out. I also talked with my wife, that was something I said, Hey, this is what life’s gonna look like, are you okay? Right? If I clock out at 7pm, and then clock out every Friday and don’t do anything on the weekends, other than spending time with family. That was something that we both had to be like, yes, we are going to be okay with this for now. And that that happened up until I would say about two months ago, when that was my last day as a teacher, I left the teaching industry. And now I’m a full time life coach.
Tyson Bradley 16:52
That’s awesome. So is there a moment where you were just like, I need to do this full time? Like, or was that just like always the plan?
Joey Mascio 17:03
Well, yeah, I was always a plan to get there. You know, I saw
Tyson Bradley 17:06
Joey Mascio 17:06
very successful coaches. But for me, I remember the exact month, it was August of 2020. So I made my first like, I had my big month, I made $6,000 in one month. That’s great. Yeah. And I was I just raised my prices. It was funny, the whole price structure, right? Like you don’t really believe in yourself. So 50 bucks for six weeks of coaching. You know I to a friend of mine, Ben Pugh, who I know, you know. And now Ben and I work together in founded, he essentially is like, well, like, you know, you can charge more. And in order to do this, you actually have to charge more or else you won’t be able to help very many people. If you don’t charge, you know, more. So yeah, I was afraid I raised my prices, and I was okay, I guess nobody’s in a book. And then I’ve made $6,000 that month. And that’s when it clicked for me. I’m like, oh, my goodness, I looked at my wife, I said, babe, I need to do this full time I needed. And it wasn’t like I’d had a year of making $6,000 a month, or whatever. It was just I knew it was possible. And now I’m like, oh, okay, here it goes. And that was at the beginning of the school year. And I was already in the contract to do it. So we had nine months to really start getting everything ready for my exit out of working for somebody else into you know, working for myself.
Tyson Bradley 18:25
Was there anything within that transition that either we found difficult or challenging? Or was it just, you know, just that kind of daily grind of like a I’m doing all the things. And I know I’ll get there, but this is what I want to focus on?
Joey Mascio 18:45
Well, for me, it was more so of discouragement, in moments when I would just think, Oh, this isn’t going to be possible, actually. Right. For whatever reason. Insurance is a big one for me and my family because my son has cystic fibrosis, which is a lung disease he was born with and he’ll have his whole life. He needs insurance. And you need lots of it because he has tons of medications 1000s upon 1000s of dollars a month worth of medications that he needs. And that was something for a long time, especially when I was a teacher. That was kind of a lie that my brain believed. Well, I can’t go be my own boss and work for myself. Oh, my son needs insurance. I’ll do this for him. I kind of kind of made myself a martyr, which you know, felt good in the moment, but I still wanted to it was a limiting me. And so over the past year during that transition, it was I kept having to tell myself No, no, it’s possible. People out there are already doing it. And that was the thought that I had that got me through the discouragement people out there are are already doing it now and that helped me shift from kind of feeling like a victim like Well, I’m stuck. You know, I have to do this. I can’t leave it to discovering possibilities, right. And then I My wife is she’s again, she’s a scientist by background. Now she’s, you know, she’s a stay at home homeschool mom, which is what she wants to do. She just attacked, you know, figuring out insurance with her veracity that she does. And we have figured it out, we’re making it work. And we’re still in the process of making it work. But it’s no longer something that I feel limited by. So that was the biggest trial win for me when I was making this transition. Is those thoughts? Oh, nope, that’s not possible. Nope, nope, you can’t. Right. Right. And I don’t like those thoughts. So I fight.
Tyson Bradley 20:34
Yeah. You know, it, honestly, it’s, it’s amazing. Some of the things that I tell my clients is that, you know, among the range of thoughts, and the, like, we like to associate positive and negative those labels to thoughts. And then there’s kind of like neutral in the middle. And I feel like, you know, it’s hard for people to go from negative, it’s not possible to the extreme positive, it’s totally possible, I could totally do this, the brain just doesn’t believe it. It’s just like, no, it’s not, I have plenty of evidence to support. So let’s go back to the negative thinking that it’s not, and thus, standard disappointment, standard discouragement. And so what I have found is that it’s not just the getting to neutral that’s awful, of maybe for your example would be, it’s like I’m making money, or, and that’s the truth I can, I can actually, like believe that. Well, it’s like, what’s working is that I am making money from this business from what I’m doing. That’s working, but more so into the realm of like you said, possibility. It’s like, it’s like slightly better than neutral. And it gives you and it’s something that the brain is actually more capable of believing, because anything is possible. And what I have found is that even more is that we’ve been for those that have been raised in the church, like, we believe that through Christ, all things are possible. And that’s something that just comes so readily, like, the moment you think the thought with Christ, I can do all things like with grace, like all things really are possible. Of course, the moment we add that, then we can say, it’s, it’s possible that we could get insurance. It’s totally possible. And sometimes, you know, and maybe I’ll ask you this, if you could go back in time. And when you first started experiencing the discouragement, like, what would you tell yourself in that moment?
Joey Mascio 22:33
Well, I’ll tell myself the thought that I ended up discovering later on, which is what I have now. Right? Yeah, back then I was started thinking to stop much, much earlier. Essentially, it was, yeah, God wants you to do this.
Tyson Bradley 22:46
Joey Mascio 22:48
And when I had that permission, right, because that was something I felt during this, this process that I use. Now when I get discouraged. I’m like, Oh, well, I don’t need to be discouraged about this, because I already got my answer that God wants me to do this, I feel very directed in what I’m doing. And therefore, I don’t need to be discouraged. It’s in his hands. I’m just it to figure out where we’re going. And own or like how to make this possible. And it’s funny, you talk about that, you know, through Christ, all things are possible, right? We tend to want to put limitations on that. Right? All things are possible. But that’s not like, I can’t use that though, to start a business because that seems selfish. Or that seems, you know, like, I can’t use it to want to make money. You know, because that’s also it’s like, why do we do that? Why limit ourselves? and be like, you know, yeah, ya know, like, that’s only for, you know, being a good home teacher or ministering Brother, you know, or it’s only good for doing service or being a father or getting health insurance for my sick kid. That’s how I can use that. But when it comes to me being successful in business, yeah, that’s not what that’s for. But it is it’s, it’s
Tyson Bradley 23:53
No, and I it’s one of the it’s one of the big, I think, lies that we tell ourselves that these desires that we have even desires, like wanting a nice home or wanting a Tesla, or wanting, you know, any what I would consider a righteous desire, because it’s not like we’re desiring to kill anybody or hurt anybody. It’s like, we’re desiring things that we just want. And what if God wants what you want?
Joey Mascio 24:24
Yeah. Which is weird to be like, yeah, God wants me to have a Tesla, you know. But I like it. Here’s the thing. I think God wants me to be happy. And I’m not saying that I want to tessellate would be nice, you know, but I do want a large home, I want a large property. I want lots of money, so I can live the lifestyle that I want. So I can do lots of things in the church, but also do lots of fun things. You know, like I want to be able to just have fun, and a lot of successful people that I know in the church, like state presidents or whatnot. They all seem to be people who have the things they want. And yeah, it varies. I had a State President who became a general authority afterwards, who had a nice property in Orange County, California, and lots of different, really classic cars. And but he was just really spiritual, awesome, powerful leader. And we might look at that, oh, he wants, you know, like, the worldly things, but like, he wants what he wants. And he’s also fighting way to serve. And then there’s other great men who, you know, are well off in different ways, or Yeah, you know, he runs your business. And that’s a modest home, it’s like, you can still have what you want. Because if you’re pursuing, you know, the gospel and becoming Christ, like, then you’re not going to be as much danger as what everybody says, Oh, well, then I’m going to become so consumed with money, I’m gonna become so consumed with all these other things, that all of a sudden, I’ll leave the church or not be spiritual, or whatever, you know, but it’s like, well, you have to balance it. And that’s something that me my wife, focus on hardcore. Now, now that I have whatever schedule that I want. Me, My wife have devotional with our family every morning, right? Where I do scripture stories, and we act out scriptures, you know, we have family evening mode, most of the time. It’s doing those things, it’s is part of that work balance, life, you know, and so, keep your eye on it. And you can still have those things that you want as well as my check.
Tyson Bradley 26:25
So, you know, it’s interesting that you bring a balance, because that’s, I’m writing an article on on work life balance, and curious about, you know, these discussions that you have with with your wife, is there a goal is there, you know, what, in your mind equals balanced to you guys.
Joey Mascio 26:41
So, for us balance looks like this, right? We said, Okay, I can make my own schedule. What does that look like? You know, and we talked about, in fact, when we moved, because we sold are a part of this big transition in my life. We sold our house in California, I left the teaching job in California, we moved up to Utah. And we’re here what, okay, we can do whatever we want. Is that, right? Like, you know, what, what do we want? And I’m like, Okay, let’s do this. Let’s, I’m going to work 12 hours a day, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and I love it, right? I’m working on my business in the morning. I’m working in my business in the afternoon, right? I called my membership and clients whatnot, doing all the things, but then Wednesday night, I’m done. I’m done for the weekend. And what do we want to do? And so on that drive, we designed our lives, it was so much fun, and so much fun to be able to Okay, what are we gonna do once a month, we have an adventure weekend. Maybe it’s camping, maybe it’s doing this like we just planned the one for September yesterday, were to go to the Great Wolf Lodge stopped by the Grand Canyon on the way down to Arizona stay in the Great Wolf Lodge, this indoor waterpark thing my kids are just in love with. We knew that. And I’m taking a week off in the business. We knew that every six weeks, I’m going to take a week off to spend with my family or build a business more whatever to do whatever we want. And but we planned it daddy daughter dates every Thursday, right? Or it’s like every other Thursday, we switch off mother’s Son dates, we’ll go to the temple, right? Like there’s my trip your trip, couple trip. We planned it, all right. And for us, it’s like, oh, my God, we looked at it. And we’re like, this is amazing. Like, this sounds so awesome. And this is what we want to do. And, and we may not be perfect at that plan. But man, we are in love with that. Those guiding stars. And that’s what we want to do. And it just invigorates. Me I’m gonna do anything I can to keep this and make this happen.
Tyson Bradley 28:40
Yeah, I know, as I’ve as I’ve been thinking about, about balance, some things that you mentioned, it’s like, balance is different for everybody. Because some people they actually like to work, they love their job, and they like to work more. And for others, like spending time with family is is just like huge, and they want more of that in their life. And obviously, when it comes to creating your own business, that allows you the freedom to, in a sense design what you want your life to look like. And for me, I think that when people talk about balance, when people get off balance is those moments where in your heart and soul, you know, something’s off, you know that something has either been given too much priority, and everything else that is important to you is tapering off or is not being honored.
Joey Mascio 29:37
Tyson Bradley 29:38
What do you think
Joey Mascio 29:39
That’s so powerful? Yes. As you said that I recognize I’m like, yeah, there were times when I was doing the transition that probably year and a half of working two jobs, essentially, where I took coaching clients on Saturday because I’m like I tell you in order to do this, it didn’t feel right. It didn’t feel right to wake up. My kids would be like, Daddy, it’s Saturday and I’m like, oh, But I actually have things to do in the morning, you know, like, oh, but okay, you know, and then like haven’t it didn’t feel right. So I, I did that probably for a bit longer than I should, you know, until eventually I was like, Nope, I’m done. And I don’t I know I can make more money if I opened up, you know that that time but i’m not i’m not going to do that because like you said, My heart was was like pinging, you know, it’s like, yeah, there’s something not right here you know, and it’s so important to pay attention to, to the spirit to your intuition to all of it, right? Pay attention to that and what it’s doing for you. And then when your brain starts to go, No, no, but I can’t, I can’t just do that. That’s when you go, Nope, I’m gonna pay attention more to my heart. And this pinging sensation is feeling rather than my brain telling me I can’t do that.
Tyson Bradley 29:40
Yeah. Right, right. Now, what would you say is your biggest surprise about being a successful entrepreneur?
Joey Mascio 30:55
First off, you just call me a successful entrepreneur. And that is that didn’t hit me till right now, Tyson.
Tyson Bradley 31:05
Joey Mascio 31:06
literally this moment recorded. I never really identified as that. Even though I’m two years ago. I’m a successful entrepreneur. Yes. Okay. Sorry, coming back again,
Tyson Bradley 31:17
Joey Mascio 31:19
biggest surprise, maybe this was it? No, I was gonna say was it still work? Now, I say that, meaning that like, I enjoy the work. But I think for a while I would told myself, there’s going to be a time where it’s not work, meaning it’s not stressful, there’s not things, all the things I’m going to be doing, or all the things I’m going to want to do, you know, and it’s like, that whole thing where I’m in this world one, just like, it’s like cutting butter. You know, it’s just super easy all the way. But it’s not, it’s actually more like cutting steak, right? This is a metaphor I’m making up right now. And I love it.
Tyson Bradley 31:59
Joey Mascio 32:00
So it’s like, oh, you know, like, I’m gonna have to put some effort in, I’m still enjoying it, I’m eating steak, right? But there’s like, Oh, I gotta cut off that fat. Oh, this is bone right here, I got to kind of get around that. There’s still parts of my business, where it’s like, oh, man out of work, you know, like writing my podcast, I love my podcast, right? I love it. But I have to sit down and write it. And I still feel the unpleasant emotions of I don’t have to do this. Okay, sit down, I stuffed it like myself in the pants to do it. So that, to me was surprising. And it’s just because I was believing this false story that, well, once I’m an entrepreneur, I’m on autopilot. I’m gonna coast. This, it’ll be like cutting butter. But it’s not. It’s like cutting steak.
Tyson Bradley 32:42
You know, I love that analogy. And I don’t know if I ever like remembered learning this or this is a real thing might be made up. But I remember one time learning that sometimes pushing too hard on the knife when cutting a steak actually doesn’t cut it as well. But that like having just an even keel, just like, it’s not like you’re putting too much pressure, you’re letting the knife do the work of cutting mistake. And although there’s things that you have to work around, although there’s things in fat that you have to cut off, just like, if we put too much pressure on ourselves, it’s actually makes it take her to cut. But if you’re if your knife is sharp, and maybe maybe the analogy of just like having a sharp knife is just is just, you know, honoring, and paying attention to what’s in your hearts, being able to just know that this is what God wants for you. But just this whole process of, Hey, you know, now that you have this successful business, it’s still going to be work like there’s going to be effort put into that making sure that you’re not putting so much pressure on that it becomes a burden again, or it becomes something that you that you don’t want. And at least what I have found is that there’s always going to be moments where you’ll get the pings, you’ll get the pings is like something’s off like this isn’t I shouldn’t be working on on weekends, because it just, it’s family time, and you’ll feel it and you’ll know it. Okay, so what would you tell, you know, that would be entrepreneurs out there that you wish someone had told you?
Joey Mascio 34:16
It’s 100% possible a 100% because, you know, you read the books, you hear stories, you may be listening to this podcast right now. And you’re thinking, Well, yeah, no other other people can do it. It’s 100% possible for you. Like that’s what you have to learn. That’s I wish somebody would have told me much, much earlier. Right when I was like, I know, but I can’t, I can’t do that. I shouldn’t want to do it. It’s it’s other people’s stories, not mine. There is no path that God wants you to be on no specific path God wants you to be on and I’ll rephrase this in a way where So elder Bednar, he’s a leadership and in our church, I don’t know how many of your listeners are members of our church not but He was in a question and answer fireside that I attended. I raised my hand and I asked him the question essentially, like, know what, what, what job should I take? You know, it’s kind of the nose way back in my college years I didn’t know exactly what path to take, what job should I take? And he said, you know, what am I paraphrasing elder Bednar. He said, it doesn’t like God doesn’t care what lane you’re in, as long as you’re on the right highway. And I was like, oh, man, like, yeah, as long as I’m making my way back to my Heavenly Father, then it doesn’t matter if I’m a coach, if I’m a teacher, if I’m a Hollywood writer, like, like, none of that matters, we, we tend to have this feeling that Oh, man, well, my life wouldn’t have worked out if I did this other job or took this other path is like, No, I’m still me, I would have made it work. I’m still in the right highway. That’s something I’m always in control of, but like I can be in whatever lane I want. So that’s what I mean, when I say it’s 100% possible for you, you’re in one lane. And I might even call it the faster the slow lane. That’s irrelevant. Here. You’re just in one lane right now. And if you want to do this other if you want to shift lanes, and even if it’s on the other side, you can do that. And there’s going to take some movement, right, some maneuvering, but you can get there that’s totally possible for you Don’t be looking in the, in the fast lane, I guess, you know, and looking at other people, oh, man, I wish I wish I was over there. Yeah, I gotta be here. You know, don’t be like, don’t look at it like that, it’s possible for you to do what you want to be in any lane you want to be.
Tyson Bradley 36:48
Yeah. And kind of, to your point earlier of, of God wanting that for you. And it’s possible, God wants it. And if God wants it, then he can make it happen. Like that there’s this fake and there’s this trust that, to me, like the highway is, is the gospel, the highway is following the commandments following what God has designed to just help us be happier in this life. And as long as I’m following that path, as long as I’m following those things, I feel like I’m always going to be more in tune, I’m actually going to get closer, or more able to get into the fast lane, which is just becoming more of who I really am. And what God has always, you know, wanted me to be.
Joey Mascio 37:40
Yeah, it’s almost like what you’re just saying, someone’s like, I think it was President Nelson, who talked about how when men in the church, we give blessings, we’re not getting blessings, we tend to go, whatever God wants to happen, is going to happen. Right? And that’s very much a thing, where it’s like, what the will of God, but we don’t ask for anything. We don’t say, hey, like, I want my kids, I blessed that my kid will get better. You know, and after I listened to President Nelson, say that I kind of did my father’s blessings a little differently, right. But applying that to our business, sometimes we do that. Well. It’s whatever he wants his whatever his Well, I’m just at the mercy of his will. And there’s an element of truth to that, obviously. But yeah, I think sometimes God’s like, What do you want, right? Like, like, go do the thing that you want to do? And go, Hey, God, I want this. Yes. You know, this is what I want to please help me make this possible. And pay attention to the spirit that might say, hey, writing in Hollywood, isn’t the the way to go at this moment. Oh, okay. My goodness. All right. You know, let me let me answer that, and then get into a different lane here, and then shift that lane, but like silver bike, you still have the freedom to tell God, hey, I would like to do to ask God, I would like to do this, please help me make this possible? And then go on with open heart and open mind.
Tyson Bradley 39:08
I love that. All right. Last question. How would you say that building a business has actually strengthen your relationship with Christ.
Joey Mascio 39:17
It has made me more grateful for him. And for everything that he’s done for me be able to look at what I have done, the skills that I have, that nobody else has, that’s something that you’ll you’ll do, you’ve probably experienced this too. I definitely know you have. But for those listeners, who as you start to build your own business, you’ll start realizing I have skills that other people don’t have. And like these skills are skills that God has given me, right and that my savior wants me to use. And I just made me so very grateful, every single prayer that I say I’m just so so grateful for the skills that I have and the that I Know where they can came from, you know, and so I think it’s increased my gratitude for my savior and the work that he’s done, you know, because he also had a very particular set of skills that he needed, you know, to, to do his work on Earth. So in that way, I kind of feel like, yeah, that’s my version of becoming Christ like I can do to the Savior. I also have a work here to do. And he wants me to figure out what it is,
Tyson Bradley 40:28
Right, I love that. Alright, so if, if anyone wants to, like get in touch with and get just get into your world and learn more about what you have to offer? Where would you lead them?
Joey Mascio 40:39
Yeah, my website is firmlyfounded.com. Me and three other certified members of the church, LDS coaches, who are teen experts have created firmlyfounded.com, where we have memberships for teens membership for parents, of teens, specifically, parents of teens, where we provide this powerful kind of coaching, where you can, the way I phrase it is stop letting stress, procrastination, self doubt, suck all the fun out of being successful, as a successful parent, a successful team in whatever that means for you. You know, you can have more, create more happiness and success. And so we have lots of stuff on that website. And we’re building and growing even more over this next year. I’m super excited for what’s coming.
Tyson Bradley 41:27
That’s awesome. And if you if you’re on Instagram, what’s your handle there? Cuz you’ve got some good videos on there.
Joey Mascio 41:36
Thank you. So it’s joey_firmlyfoundedcoaching,
Tyson Bradley 41:40
Joey Mascio 41:41
Yeah, you can, you can find me there. And I took a break from my summer reels, but they should be coming back next,
Tyson Bradley 41:47
Okay. You can go to his profile, we’ll have the link in the show notes and whatnot. But the things that he’s doing on there just make life a little bit more fun, as well as teaching principles and lessons that will change how you show up every day, to your team to just life and being a parent. Cuz I think that that kind of work. And that age is pivotal, in my mind.
Joey Mascio 42:13
Tyson Bradley 42:14
So kudos to everything that you’re doing. so grateful that you are a successful entrepreneur, that you’re an example, that you are helping other people benefit in this way. So thanks for coming on here, Joey. And I appreciate what you taught us.
Joey Mascio 42:28
Thank you, Tyson.
Tyson Bradley 42:30
Hi, everybody. So that was Joey mascio. Super fun guy, super great interview. And something that really stands out to me about Joe and some that I love that you’ll have to check out on his Instagram account is that he has these videos, they’re just so funny, where he is acting as two different characters. One is kind of the prefrontal cortex, the you know, the side of your brain that is trying to fight for you trying to, you know, fight for your goals, do the good things, do the things that you know, will help you achieve your goals. And then there’s the primitive brain, then there’s the reptilian brain, then there’s the part of your brain that is just so stuck in its habits that are helpful, that doesn’t want to do anything that’s super lazy. And just to see the two out or not really at war, but just the two differences of our brain, and how this happens on the daily. Even though Joey is his audiences, these teens, the things that he shares, and what What he does, is applicable to everybody. And you may struggle with having relationship, but a relationship with your team and understanding them. And if that’s you, then hon check him out. And on the flip side, something that I want to make mention just because of his example, in marketing, and also why his story showcases is that for all of us, we have different life experiences we he started out in, in Hollywood, he wanted to be a creative writer, and write scripts, and he almost had scripts that got turned into movies and TV shows. But yet he felt guided to go a different route, but everything that he learned from Hollywood from creative writing, from his time and teaching applied to his business now. And so no matter what you’ve been through in your life, it all is helpful is all been done for a reason. It is there’s never a wasted moment. You just have all these life experiences that you can now use for the benefit of other people. And whether that’s in regards to being a coach, whether that’s in regards to just creating any kind of product or service and using what you’ve learned in your marketing using what you’ve learned in your business building, learning using what you’ve learned in building a team. What It is you have knowledge, you have experiences that are helpful. So I just wanted to highlight that as well as, as help you understand that there are hundreds of ways to market and sell what you have to offer. The most basic premise of being able to sell to anybody is that you just meet people, tell them what you do, or what you have to offer. And then invite them. And invite them to purchase what you have, invite them, you know, make them an offer, to be able to say, Hey, I think this will help you. And there are lots of ways to meet people, there are lots of ways to be able to tell them, hey, this can help you. And the more that you do that, and the more that you also think about how you do that, and which way just sounds fun. That’s what I think is missing for so many people is this like, hey, what is just what would be super fun. Would it be fun to just make funny videos all the time, because your your character because you like doing funny things would be fun for you to just learn how to do Facebook ads, and you’re just you know, you’re fascinated by it. Some that would just sounds fun, just figure it out. Because you love numbers and you love understanding all the little nuances and you’d like playing around with different different variables. All that matters is that you have something that you want to share with the world. And then the way to get that out to the world and how people purchase it from you is what we call marketing. And there are multiple ways in which you can do that. And the way in which aligns with you and that you feel guided towards. That’s something worth figuring out. That’s something that I like to help my clients figure out so that they are not only building their business, but they’re building their business in a way that is not draining. I can’t tell you for from my own experience, how many things I tried before I found something that i thought you know, and this is actually much more fun to do. You know that instead of doing webinars each week, which works for some people, instead of doing Facebook ads that you’re making videos, or that you’re posting weekly on on Instagram, whatever it is. So it’s something that I want to be able to help you with so that you can build a business without having to work so hard. Alright. So if that interests you, if that is something that you want to learn the skill of, then go ahead and go to entrepreneursofChrist.com, and you can set up a time to chat we can meet, we could talk we can figure out what it is that is holding you back from creating this business that you want and from becoming the person that you’ve always wanted to be. Alright, talk to you later. Bye
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